Posts by Anders Andersen

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2020 Convention- Worse fear-mongering propaganda video

by Newly Enlightened in

https://youtu.be/p7jx8sbghck .

Anders Andersen

Grandiose delusions.

Also the video department is running on a tight budget it seems?
"Hey this CO's nephew can sort of animate the drawings from 2018....that should do it!"

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Elder manuals

by dogisgod in

pre elder arrangement.

we had congregation overseer.

when did the society begin publishing the secret “elder” books and training..

Anders Andersen

@Earnest,

Nice one, didn't know that existed.

Reading it a bit now, and they had ridiculous rules in 1961 too...and less craftful wordsmithery to obfuscate the harsh truth: JW must obey the Watchtower Society and follow its rules.

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my old account was silent and i had to create a new account which kind of bums me, but here i am.. over the years i've really experienced some rough times emotionally and spiritually which led me down many paths.

being angry most all of time with a few outbursts really started to make me take stock of what was wrong with me.

further i started really going back and trying to figure out where i went wrong.. so i revisted all my previous posts on here.

Anders Andersen

I want the best for my wife and family and instead of rolling around in the mire of negativity always finding fault and taking a perpetual negative view

My former church does that. They always present everything but themselves as bad.

People outside the church are said to all be selfish, rude, ignorant, evil, unloving, immoral, dishonest.

Authorities are claimed to be lead by the Devil himself, all out to get members of the church. The church is claimed to be the no.1 target of all persecution.

The church claims (contrary to actual facts) that the world gets worse every day. They (falsely) claim disease and disasters, wars and violence, crime and all other evils are on the rise, leading to inescapable mayhem.

They never mention anything good about the world we live in or the world situation. And if they do, they'd portray it in a negative light, claiming mankind is fighting a lost battle anyway.

They also claim every human being is severely flawed, and can never hope to really fight off their own mistakes and flaws.

Members are always told they can't even trust themselves because they will lead themselves astray.

All the above negativity is repeated almost daily to the church members.

You are right. We don't need such negativity in our lives.

I choose to focus on the good in mankind, in the world we live in.

I choose to focus on the huge improvements we made.

Oh...take a guess what my former church is? I'm sure you can recognize them from the description.

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All Memorial Attendance Data

by hipolito in

jw
friends

hi friend.. i want to ask you to do me the next favor.. if any of you have the following data or file on the following topic: "all memorial attendance data from 1896 to 2016".. if one of you knows about it or has the file in excel, i will really appreciate it.. thank you..

Anders Andersen

@Hipolito,

I didn't notice your request asked for figures further back in time.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics-historical-data.php has scanned memorial reports starting from 1935.
Maybe you can get what you want there?

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All Memorial Attendance Data

by hipolito in

jw
friends

hi friend.. i want to ask you to do me the next favor.. if any of you have the following data or file on the following topic: "all memorial attendance data from 1896 to 2016".. if one of you knows about it or has the file in excel, i will really appreciate it.. thank you..

Anders Andersen

I think you can find what you need in the Yearbook Stats by Field 1981-2017.xls file, tab sheet "Mem. Att."

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All Memorial Attendance Data

by hipolito in

jw
friends

hi friend.. i want to ask you to do me the next favor.. if any of you have the following data or file on the following topic: "all memorial attendance data from 1896 to 2016".. if one of you knows about it or has the file in excel, i will really appreciate it.. thank you..

Anders Andersen

Hipolito,

Not exactly what you may be looking for, but have a look here:

Yearbook Stats 1981-2017.xls

Yearbook Stats by Field 1981-2017.xls

I found them in this thread on this forum by Googling "All Memorial Attendance Data from 1896 to 2016"

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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience

by joe134cd in

just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.

i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.

but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.

Anders Andersen

I’m just scared this is going to make my father look a foolish.

More foolish than believing regular Watchtower cult nonsense?

Anyway, this is very, very unlikely to happened as described.

And if it happened, the sister is a bit silly. Why translate a letter to Chinese-American person into Spanish? Or perhaps she saw the CEO name (E. Yuan) and thought "oh Juan sounds Spanish. This billion dollar company CEO probably can't read English then"?

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Parents of Sarah Kellen, Ghislaine Maxwell's 'lieutenant', are JW's. Fear df'd daughter will be charged in Epstein case

by AndersonsInfo in

"parents of ghislaine maxwell's 'lieutenant' sarah kellen worry their daughter will be arrested and charged in epstein's child sex trafficking ring, as they claim teen was 'brainwashed.

quote: but with concerns mounting over her behavior, kellen was disfellowshipped, a disciplinary sanction whereby she was expelled from the church and ostracized by its members, including her own family.‘it was all handled out there.

it’s very private, there’s a committee that meets and they go over everything.

Anders Andersen

So....they raised their child to blindly obey authority figures (men) without asking questions, they let her marry at age 17, and shunned her from age 18.

No shit she was vulnerable to being brainwashed and manipulated. It was all she ever knew and had learned to accept as normal.

These parents did a shit job, and can't just rectify that with a single interview decades later.

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2 Letters Arrived-English and Spanish-Announcement!--(as of 2020-07-17)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2020-07-10--announcement.

(2 letters--one in english and one in spanish.).

use of messaging apps to share video files:.

Anders Andersen

What legal entity issued that announcement letter?

If it's not the same entity as the one that holds the copyright to the JW videos, they may be encouraging elders to break the copyrights to those videos. That may be useful in (future) copyrights cases.

And/or this letter proves that the different legal entities used by JW (such as CCJW and WT NY and WT PA) do in fact interact and have access to each other's resources and materials (something they tried to deny in a CSA court case before).

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Did you enjoy some of these back then?

by Mandrake in

i was bored to death this sunday, and suddenly i remembered that it could be worse if having to attend the public meeting on a sunday, even worse, not being assigned to the sound department, accomodating, being the mic guy, or reading the wt at the platform... then i realized that i hated just "attending" and sitting at meetings, those "privileges" were the only thing i enjoyed and made my last months inside bearable.... did you enjoy these assignments?

Anders Andersen

Oh yeah!

When I was 18 (and still unbaptised) we moved. In the new congregation they quickly gave me some tasks such as manning sound dept. and roving the mics. In the old congregation such important spiritual privileges were strictly for baptised men, but in the new congregation every boy in good standing from age 15/16 and up could join in the fun. (I guess they tried to encourage the boys to participate and join the JW for real. And maybe one elder having a 16 year old unbaptised son played part in that).

Anyway, it was always good fun, standing at the back with the mics, chatting or joking with the other young bros.

Being a Watchtower reader was also a good thing, made the time pass much faster. Bonus points for not even having the right WT with me, let alone having ever seen it before, and still get praise from elders 'because you preprared the reading so well'.

For conventions it started with building the podium the day before convention started. Always good fun with the young crowd.

And during conventions tried to stack as many 'privileges' as possible.

So started with parking duty (for obviously no JW can find a parking spot all by themselves! I wonder how large worldly events ever manage parking with zero to none parking attendants???). Always very nice except in the pouring rain. But at least we got to enter the hall early and get nice seats.

The parking job also included a guard duty during the program. I always asked to have these halfway the afternoon. Otherwise I'd sleep anyway.

And I got lucky in that I also got to be an attendant for the main entrance, which meant another shift to get out of my chair. Preferably in the morning.

And so every convention day I was in my seat only half the time. Better than to sit and listen, even when full PIMI...